Procrastination

interesting

Don’t rely too much on the 2001 Indian census; many of the figures will be guesstimates or extrapolations for Kashmir.

A post about why indians get so worked up at the mention of kashmir would be interesting… not to mention pakis

Zack: True, though I suppose it doesn’t make too much difference in most ways given the special status and restrictions on movement and settlement in operation within IaK.

It’s good to know there is a excellent debate going on jammu and kashmir. look forward to more such data.–Thanks , kanishk

At last I have found some authentic figures which are copied from the well-researched and documented book British Raj in India - an Historical Review.

JAMMU PROVINCE
Muslims 1,208,675 61%
Hindus 772,760 39%

KASHMIR PROVINCE
Muslims 1,489,988 91.455%
Hindus 139,217 8.545%

WHOLE STATE OF JAMMU & KASHMIR

Total Muslims 3,101,247 77.115%
Total Hindus 809,165 20.120%
Total sikhs 65,903
Total Buddhists 40,696
Others 4,605

Total population 4,021,616

It is, therefore, clear that before partition, provinces of Jammu and Kashmir, separately, were Muslim majority areas.

If the current complexion of the population has become different, and the Muslim majority in Jammu is now a minority, it is entirely the work of the 700,000-strong Indian army stationed in the state, one soldier for every six Kashmiris, during the last 57 years - something that the world should take note of.

Out of the portion named Azad Jammu & Kashmir, Bhimber and Mirpur formed part of province Jammu and Kotli, part Poonch and Muzaffarabad formed part of province of Kashmir. Bhimber with very population could only becompared withh a village. Mirpur also had Hindu population who migrated much earlier than the trouble started.

… and since Mexicans make up the majority of parts of Cailfornia and Texas, lets make them independent, i’m sure they’d love that. Better yet, let them become a part of Mexico.

Oh and since many parts of southern L.A. are black, let them become a part of Africa.

What idiotic logic these terrorists use…

I interest in your web site. But please attach some beautiful pictures of Azad Kashmir on your web site.

salams and hellos, im from jammu and kashmir, i just wanted to say that as a kashmiri its my duty to tell everyone that we want independance or join pakistan, if i said that in kashmir itself i would be looking at accusations of being a terrorist and some bloodshed with the 700 000 odd troops there. someone made the sarcastic humorous statement that california is full of hispanics and should go to the mexicans, well my answer to them is that jammu kashmir are not people who moved there like hispanics but are from that land itself, the hindus and sikhs moved to the beautiful state on orders by the indian government making settlements. kashmiris are a different race completely to indians, pandits were hindus who came to preach thier hinduism a long time ago. hinduism only belonged to the indian race however when hindus moved to other regions they settled and became whatever like romani gypsies originating from india. also alot of hindus and sikhs became muslim by kashmiri scholars and formed a new breed of muslims ie pakistani, indian muslims etc (obviously before the partition long long time ago!). i have just reliazed that im giving everyone a school type of history lecture so il cut short and say “may the jammu kashmiri people recieve a referendem and vote for thier fate god willing and be free of oppressive indian forces” i am sorry if ive offended anyone as im not an offending type of person! however i believe freedom should be given even if it means fighting for it inshALLAH, bye bye everyone!

PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE STATISTICS SEEM TO DIFFER, MIRPUR IS AT LEAST 99% MUSLIM AND IN JAMMU ID SAY THERE ARE MORE MUSLIMS UNLESS THE INDIANS HAVE KILLED THEM OFF AND REPLACED THEM WITH SETTELMENTS LIKE ISRAEL HAS DONE WITH PALESTINE. THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT WILL OBVIOUSLY GIVE FALSE STATISTICS, AND NOT SHOW THE TRUE STATISTICS AS IT HAS TO MUCH TO LOOSE. MY DAD WAS BORN IN JAMMU AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN THERE SINCE AS WE ARE NOT ALLOWED, WHOEVER LEFT THERE DURING THE PARTITION IS NOT ALLOWED BACK YOU SEE, NON MUSLIM MINORITYS WERE DUE TO THEM LEAVING PAKISTAN AND SETTLING IN REGIONS OF INDIAN HELD KASHMIR.

OK COOL! IF THATS WHAT YOU SAY YOU DID, IL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT.

hi dere culd u plz tell me how many sikhs are in da whole world?

i think india should give independence to kashmir valley. keep jammu & ladakh. make permanent boundry

hello Kashmiris from usa.

I am not kashimiri, niether i am muslim, but i have a friend who is born and raised in kashimir, yet when i ask him any question about kashimir , he has very few words to describe kashimir. I think he needs to be more in touch with his own people, therefore you people should write to him and make him more kashimiri then american, please reply him back, zobs42@hotmail.com specially girls reply him back.
thank you
God bless kashimir

rawalakot n bagh were part of JAMMU REGION during british times

n btw , MIRPUR , KOTLI and POONCHH ( part wid pakistan now i.e rawalakot n bagh ) made DA JAMMU REGION ALONG WID da districts of KATHUA , JAMMU , UDHAMPUR , RAJOURI , POONCHH ( part wid india ) N DODA ( including kishtwar ); so kindly correct urself

da language spoken in dese districts ( except DODA ) is NOT kashmiri but dogri , gujari n pahari ( potowari n other poonchhi versions ) ; s0 kindly MAKE NOTE —–> 61 % MUSLIM P0PULATION 0F JAMMU REGION INDICATES DA MUSLIM POPULATION IN ALL OF DESE DISTRICTS mentioned above ….

besides ,
firstly , i’ll ask pakistanis to awake from slumber

NO INDIAN CITIZEN WHO D0ES N0T H0LDS DA STAUS 0F ” JAMMU AND KASHMIR CITIZEN “i.e. STATE CITIZEN CAN BUY LAND 0R 0WN PR0PERTY IN JAMMU AND KASHMIR …

so da claim made by ppl. here dat MANY HINDUS HAVE BEEN SETTLED IN INDIAN JAMMU REGION IS C0MPLETELY SHALLOW

secondly , da lower districts 0f JAMMU REGION ( KATHUA , JAMMU , UDHAMPUR ) has seen little if any insurgency n PRESECE OF ANTI-INSURGENCY TROOPS n its dese 3 states in JAMMU REGION which makes JAMMU REGION MAJORITY “HINDU” …

muslims are in a majority in RAJOURI , DODA N POONCHH , so st0p makin FALSE CLAIMS OF INDIAN ARMED FORCES N GOVT INTERFERIN N TRYIN TO ALTER DA DEMOGRAPHY OF JAMMU REGION

n thirdly ,

KASHMIR demography comprises of various ethnic n lingual groups
TALKIN ABT PEOPLE FROM DA VALLEY …..

DEN MAJORITY MUSLIMS IN KASHMIR VALLEY HAVE DER KRAMS OF HINDU LINEAGE ……….

der few SYEDS n even fewer pathans , bukharis and mughals in kashmir valley ; daz why da person makin a claim dat HINDUS ( PANDITS ) SETTLED IN KASHMIR FROM OUTSIDE IS YET AGAIN SHALLOW .

da ISLAMISATION OF KASHMIRI MASSES BEGAN FROM DA MIDDLE OF 14TH CENTURY AFTER DA EASTABLISHMENT OF MUSLIM RULE IN DA VALLEY N CONTINUED TILL DA MUGHAL N PATHAN RULE .

It’s obvious why pakis want to separate Kashmir from India…because we kicked their butts and separated East Bengal from them. It’s only a matter of time before India announces the annexation of Bangladesh due to increased insurgency. And when it come’s to the pakis, they can’t spend a day without thinking about fingering India.

hey friends,
m a secular person……but den m also a hindu……n i hav been 2 kashmir 7 times……n i hav seen the plight f HINDUS in J&K……i hav spoken there to muslims about the media spread terms like..ATROCITY BY INDIAN TROOPS……and i hav come 2 a conclusion that barring a few minor cases there has been love,supoort and care…….after all even the army is HUMAN…….and then who can forget the plight of the KASHMIRI PANDITS…….they are the worst hit……remembered only 2 months before elections……PAKISTANIS are good people but they are a majority fanatic…..and that nature hurts the peace procedure………i hav muslim and hindu friends from kashmir whose relatives hav been killed in the last decade…..and i bet you none of my muslim friends are considering them as martyrs……because they know….they were fanatics…..
so i request to abide by the peace process and lets fight for the good of the kashmiris….

SALAM
I M MUSLIM $ PAKISTANI
I LOVE KASHMIR
A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY

Hi
I’m on MA Creative Writing at the university of Teesside, Middlesbrough and for my final assignment I’m doing a long poem called ‘Honour Palace’.This the buliding of palaces in Mirpuri by ex-pats, when there is no one to live there. In this poem I want to weave the history of Kashmir, Mirpur, and the effects of Mangla Dam.
I would be most grateful for any information including press cuttings regarding protests over Mangla dam, pictures of old Mirpur, names of villages drowned etc.
The opening lines of the poem are:
75,000 Rupees, one horse, 12 goats and three shawls.

The price haggled by the Honourable East India Company and Maharaja Gulab Singh, for Kashmir. Men, women, children, and livestock all bargained for like an old nag at horse fair.
One shawl and 100 goats also to be given every year otherwise Kashmir would revert back to the British.. This became the famous Treaty of Amritsar.
Khadim Hussain
khadam27@ntlworld.com

i think india should give independence to kashmir valley. keep jammu & ladakh. make permanent boundry

There was no Islam existed in india or Kashmir.. These were coward hindus became muslims fearing the curl mughals invander from Afghanistan. Muslims forced indus valley people to became muslims. Even during the partition or india and pakistan… the curl muslim league killed non-muslims (kafirs). Now 40% of paki punjab population are in fact hindus. see the british records… the hindus and sikhs never came to india.. instead they become muslims.. if this bloody bastard jinah would have been died 2 years earlier.. it won’t be no problem now.
why they made pakistan.. when they couldn’t send all the muslims to phakistan

Thanks.. yes… i have read the history. it say force conversion. So you all people living in Kashmir renounce muslim religion and become either sikh or hindu and retain your ancestors dignity. Killing is sin.. and you will renounce terrorist acts as well…