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جمعرات 27 مئی 2004Thursday, May 27, 2004
Women, Gays, Sex, Islam
Here is an article about gay Muslims from a fellow Muslim blogger.
For years, I had fallen into the trap of the haraam/halaal debates that often produce nothing but frustration and inflated egos (my own included). Though I still get sucked in every so often, I try to stay away from that kind of thing and take a position similar to Sulayman X:
I no longer care. The issue is really quite simple, and there is no need for endless talk: gay people are human beings with human feelings and needs, and spiritual needs too, and the love they feel for others is the same love anyone feels for anyone else. Rejecting or hating them serves no useful purpose. Just because some homophobic people get a buzz from hating gays and lesbians does not mean that Allah agrees with them.
[…]What I do know is that each of our souls has the capacity to distinguish between right and wrong, and that the meanings of “right” and “wrong” are subject to infinite conditions only God is capable of sorting out. I also know that my knowledge pretty much ends at the one-God thing, and my conscience won’t allow me to disregard or reject someone who feels differently than I do. Voices condemning homosexuals to hell are abundant, but those voices don’t seem to mesh well with the themes that rise off the page every time I pick up the Qur’an.
Whether you agree or disagree with the positions that al-Fatiha [a gay Muslim organization] takes, understand that it provides a safe space for those Muslims who identify as queer, and that is a lot more than one can say about the mainstream Muslim community.
That is a very important point. Compassion and respect for others who are different from us in any way, whether in religious doctrine or in sexual orientation, is something we need to have a lot more of in the Muslim community.
While we are on the topic of Muslims and persecuted groups, Hijabman talks about women’s spaces in mosques. He cites a Hadith [saying of Prophet Muhammad] where he appointed a woman, Umm Waraqah, to lead prayers and both men and women prayed behind her. I must say I was unfamiliar with this and have only seen rulings about women being allowed to lead other women in prayer. I can’t excerpt HijabMan’s post properly, so I urge you to visit his blog and read it in full.
While we are breaking taboos, Muslim Wakeup started a Sex and the Umma series of fortnightly columns which have featured some short stories. It is not everyone’s cup of tea, but the stories can be thought-provoking as well a good read.
Posted by Zack at May 27, 2004 11:16 AM in Islam and Other Religions
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Posted by: Al-Muhajabah (262 comments) at May 28, 2004 5:30 AM
Compassion and good behavier are two of the basic qualities, rather, reqirements of a Muslim. We call ourselves Muslim but, unfortunately, follow Islam to the extent we like to. Now, coming to the point that Qur’aan prohibits or does not prohibit homosexsuality. One only needs to read qur’aan with open mind and there is clear answer to this question.
Sura 26, AL-SHUARA, Verses 165 & 166: What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, And leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but ye are froward folk.
Sura 27, AL-NAML, Verses 55 to 58: Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant! But his people gave no other answer but this: they said, “Drive out the followers of Lut from your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!” But We saved him and his family, except his wife; her We destined to be of those who lagged behind. And We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)!
Posted by: Amuslim (Neither moderate nor fundamentalist) (7 comments) at May 28, 2004 6:34 AM
HijabMan: Congratulations.
Amuslim: That’s the exact discussion I don’t want to have.
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The way I see it,
Being born and not having feeling for the opposite gender, is just another test from god to test your faith. You fail u go 2 hell.
I’m not religious, but I know where to draw the line between morality and immorality. What would god think of his melfunctioning creations? Even common sense confers……..
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Posted by: Zack (1803 comments) at April 5, 2006 8:55 PM | PGP Sig
i read something about gays on this website. i have read the translation of quran written by four different men . three in english and one in urdu.
in the article it was written by someone that he favours gays but also believe in God Almighty. if that is so then plz tell why is it written in quran that the Almighty codemns those MEN who to other MEN to appease their SEXUAL appetites rather than the women.
being gay is not only against islam but it is also against nature .
i am myself a student of gce a’levels and have read extensively.i have an experience of many different people. the thing is our humans homo sapiens when likes something very deeply they just create reasons for it to be right just to satisfy themselves.
one may think that i am a fundamentalist.if a believer of islam is islam is not to be a fundamentalist the what else will he be.a believer of the truth is very very different from a person who calls himself a muslim. a person who adds to the true belief or adds or changes it and then even calls himself a believer is a treachrous . hypocrites
Posted by: muhammad hassan (1 comments) at April 9, 2006 2:57 PM
muhammad hassan: Consider any sin. Does it make us hate the sinner in the way many Muslims hate gays? No. At least be compassionate and help people rather than hating them.
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Posted by: khan (1 comments) at May 15, 2006 3:15 PM
Dear Gals n Guys,
Islam is a religion that strictly stops men n women practising sexual relations at any level at any time or any stage with any one (male/female) other their husband n wives.
Being a Homosexual is the biggest crime as its totally against nature n spirit of a muslim. These verses of Quran are totally wrongly coated to misguide muslims. Allah allows not any sexual activity other then allowed b/w any one.
I am not fundemental person but belives on the realities and rules put up by Islam and if any one abides and disobey them HE/SHE certainly can’t be called as Muslim.
So becareful open your eyes and see the reality as we donot have any homo/hetereo sexual relations in Islam.
Posted by: A-HUMAN (1 comments) at May 20, 2006 4:44 PM
khan: I have no idea which khan saeed you are looking for.
A-Human: Wrong. Homosexuality is not a sin, the specific sexual act is according to most traditional scholars. That’s not a debate I want to get into. Let me just say that can’t you have any compassion for gays even if you think they are committing a sin?
Posted by: Zack (1803 comments) at May 23, 2006 12:43 AM | PGP Sig
Salams,
Yes, many of the traditional scholars like Saadi Sherazi who has been a student of Ibn jawziee ( 13th century scholar) have actually mentioned homosexuality in their work but along with it they have also expressed their hatred as well as the general digrace of these people among the society at that time.
In fact , I read in GULISTAN E SAADI , a story rlated by the author that the prime minister of one king was found in such an act and the king ordered him to be thrown off the highest wall of the castle so that others might take a lesson but later forgave him because he reminded the king of his various services. This was a muslim king.
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I think sexual orientation is more about sexual lifestyle. Sexual reproductive organs are termed as such because that’s what they (were intended to) do and by nature is meant to be productive. I kinda think if you put a man and a man together, it defeats the purpose. Again similarly, a woman and a woman together. So if someone “swings” that way, that’s more of a lust thing than some kind of real solace(?). The law may recognise their “rights” to “be married” but marriage itself is a sacred institution of a man and a woman who then shares children. The general public may tend to disapprove of those rights because they violate a sacred institution and I may even say, appears to be sacrilegious. Gay marriages will never produce children in the traditional legitimate sense and therefore, it is counter-productive (to the society or otherwise).
On transexuality (which I think is off the topic), if a man feels himself actually a female, the question I ask is “do you secretly yearn to menstruate, to get pregnant and to give birth?” because biologically, that’s what a woman is (a lot of blood and milk, and not without some pain). If your choromosomes say XX or XY, you are accordingly and to think you feel like the opposite chromosome is a presumption. To sashay in pretty clothes and look sensual is just a part of the big picture (though I can’t speak for those with Gonadal dysgenesis (Hermaphrodites), for them I declare I hold no prejudice if they choose a sexual orientation).
That said, I know the Quran’s stand on the people of Lut, and “condemned to Hell” they were. And I also know these gays/lesbians have feelings too and I feel bad for being so frank on a public forum (narcissistic impulse) but unfortunately I don’t buy into homosexuality. I generally avoid having friends of different sexual orientation than the norm for fear of offending them in some way I’m not initiated in. I do hold that my beliefs are founded on ‘absolute and immutable truths’ but that is only my opinion and to try impose it on others would be psychotic. But I have to say if I was the leader of a country (Muslim or otherwise), and my opinions are imposable, I would shoulder the responsibility of doing what I believe is right.
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But Ia am a hard beliver in islam .I never justify my immoral sex.I kept 30 days fasting without engagaging into sex.Yet after Ramadan I have statrted again.I alway sthink of leaving this habit but to no avail.I prayed to God a lot mhappen a miracle ,well I am not disappointed as na-umeedi is haram. I like teen boys on active gay sex.I have developed un paid confidential sex relations with my boys,though sometimes they may request for mobile cards but its all right.I love my boys.Lot of them college and school boys.Any comments on it.Ways to treat me.Dont quote Holy Text>I knew better of u people.I finished Quran during Ramadan.I fully observe and respect. My view about me is that ia sinner,yet i ask for and pray for God help and his mercy to gorgive me and show me rite path .I belive somehow well by a miracle or by abything else i will leave this habit so that when i die i go desired plac e ie Jannat.
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I have deep regards to your sruggle against yourself. I wish my best wishes to you & pray that one day you will win, just don’t lose heart..don’t loose hope. Keep praying keep asking for forgiveness..your Creator is really Compassionate,aamir.
Logically speaking, i invite every one interested to come & have a look at the miserable plight of those lying here struggling for breath(the place i work)..all these cases of STDs (sexually transmitted diseases),venral diseases, HIV, gonorrhea, syphilis…I have compassion for them too, may Allah bless them with health & accept their forgiveness.
As for those who are presently involved in this..plz don’t forget:”To err is human, to persist in err is develish”..develop will to change yourself.For that,atleast consider it an err, rather than to go about justifying that people of Lot & Pompeii were actually but Natural & should be respected instead!!
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hello; my comments r related to those who believe on Allah but they r gays. I would not say that since u people r gays so u r not muslims. it is not my job. but i would like to tell u that if u really believe in God and Quran then y u forgot that in Quran it is mentioned about a nation “Qaum-e- Loot” which was destroyed just because of this thing that those were Gays. If u don’t accept it as a truth then it means that u feel that Quran is lying (Nauzobillah). other thing is Allah created women to fulfill your desires with them in proper way (By getting marriage) even then if u r fulfilling your desires with other men then it means that u r rejecting a gift (women) given to us by Allah. dont u think it is not a good way to Thanks God for his gifts which he gave to us.
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Posted by: billiiiiiii (1 comments) at March 16, 2007 8:31 AM
As i will say its only one thing people cant just understand..
Is that its not writing in the quran that the homosexual is allowed then what next shall we say then..
i think muslims should be following the islam and by reading the books from ALLAH can we know what is allowed or not..
And i say if anybody things that its allowed to be a gay in islam then you are just fooling yourself..
in my opinion is that muslims should read the quran and get to know GOD ALLAH better and then they will know what is the right and wrong..
i think also the gays have there own self thinking because there are feeling diffrent..
i think also u can love someone live with him but not to have sex with him…
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Posted by: naveed (1 comments) at March 27, 2007 12:09 PM
God has nothing to do with this… We do not know if God felt as if being gay is wrong or not! As far as we know there could be a nother part of the Bible that we have yet to find… That will give us those answers! Everyone deserves respect NOMATTER who they are or who they love… They are making the same commitments to eachother… Just as a man and women would!
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Posted by: Madeline (2 comments) at March 29, 2007 8:41 PM
I am neither Muslim or Gay, and neither am I christian or any other religion. However, I have read all the passages I can find from the Koran and the christian bible and NO WHERE does it say God is ok with gays. It does say in very clear terms that God is not OK with gays and to put iut bluntly the bible says its an offence punishable by death and for certain the gay will be sent to hell.
While the western and christian churches have bowed down to PC correctness and embraced gay rights (which is amazing considering what their bible says) I am actually happy that one religion is sticking to its guns on this issue and that of course is Islam. I believe Islam is right in this case. Homosexuals and Lesbians have become far to powerful a minority who have been given special rights over straight people. These rights mean a priveleged lifestyle for gays. Lets take the Gay Pride marches. Can you imagine staright couples marching naked saying its cool to be straight. of course the gay rights lobbyists would have these marches shut down in a second. This is what I mean about their special rights. In the UK when a gay goes for an interview they will almost always be given the job. If the employer doesnt they may very well find the company dragged in to court accuesed of racism against gays. This is a law applied when the gay person isnt even employed by the company, again special rights for gays. A straight person applying for a job has no such rights and even if they know they are being passed by in favour of a less skilled person they have absaloutely no rights of objection.
There was a story recently where a straight man couldnt find a job for over a year. he was well educated, skilled etc but he was 42 (a very akward age for finding a job). In frustration he put on his CV that he was gay because he came across an article on a gay rights website that told its members that ALWAYS make sure the employer at the interview knows your gay because your chances are more than double that of a straight person. AMZINGLY but not suprisingly he was offered the very first job he applied for.then he was the likely candidate for the post despite there being many applications for the post.
So, as a western non religious person I actually applaud Islams stance on this and I would like to see them voice their objections much louder. All my straight friends are sick and tired of having gay propaganda rammed down our throats. OK, yes we know you like to perfrom buggery and practice unnatural sex but PLEASE just get on with it quitely just as straights do rather than screaming from every rooftop how cool it is to be gay.
finally in the UK the apologist spineless government have given gays the right to adopt children. THIS IS WRONG. gays have given up their biological right to have children. That is their lifestyle choice and should deal with accordingly. Two men adopting an infant boy is simply wrong, very very wrong. Every fibre of my being tells me this is wrong YET i am supposed to feel all warm and cuddly about this. Mark my words, sexual abuse against young boys from their daddy and dadday is going to be big news in later years. Gays make a lifestyle choice but straight people should be very aware what this actually means. They dont have sexual relations like we do. The whole sex practice with gays is decadent to its fullest and completely unnatural. For young gays its all about having as many partners as they can. Basically anal sex is everything to gays followed closely by oral sex, this is what it bolis down to. call me areligious fanatic or whatever you want but again every fibre of my being tells me that when a man puts his penis inside andother mans anus which is the place waste material is deposited and of course traces of faeces are left is a tottally alien concept to me. if it is to me I have a very string feeling t is for god as well.
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Posted by: TANVEER (1 comments) at May 23, 2007 1:33 AM
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Sarah; Life is as just as you take it..Infact your attitude towards life, creation & Creator is what matters. Allah knows his creation well & has made perfect moral outlets for the whims & biological needs that He himself created in them. Having belief in the fact that He is more Merciful than 70 moms; He never forces any one to be corrupt. Everything over here is a test, you see. Scarcity of “adequate outlets” is a test..but not for those who just need “mere outlets”. Provision of lawful (Halal) means is granted, believe me..yet with a relaying delay..again a test of patience & loyalty of the creation towards their Creator.
Yes; sex IS a need, & by scrolling down the comments-thread on this page it seems as its rather a.. ‘burning need’ instead of biological need -) ..So, as you wrote:”why wouldn’t He provide for us in this situation when our desires are human and so are all our needs in this connection”?
Once again, the reason for scarcity of adequate outlets is my attitude, your attitude; the system we have planned & devised to make our young generation morally corrupt, by not marrying them off in early ages, by not learning the moral codes; Divine revelation (Quran & Sunnah) ourselves & not passing it of to them, expecting just too much out of them, exposing them to hazards & in defense providing them with no stealth no shield..
..But the point remains; pay heed to the Divine morality within yourself..& u’ll know that there still are ways & means to retain morality with patience until Allah provide us with lawful sustenance (Rizq)..be it for fulfilling our hunger, thirst or sex..all means of testing..
Nadeem; If, as you said (Allah-forbid): “all the religions are just stories created by men who wanted to control society, they don’t seem logical”…”However be ethical”…
then will you kindly spare some time “logically” telling me that who’ll guide us what being ethical is?..As something that might be ethical for me may be unethical for you..
Posted by: S.M MD (4 comments) at June 20, 2007 8:27 PM
Very interesting comments from muslims and non muslims. Some are logical and some just absurd. Well, my comments could sound stupid too. But I am really inspired to put my personal thought. The symbol of sex in islam is Muhammad, who maried with sixteen ladies and had 8 more without marraige. This is clearly mentioned in Hadith and ,muslim books. The history clearly proves about sodonism in islam. I feel sorry for the muslim followers who just close thier eyes and beleive because they born in muslim family. For God sake please open your eyes and just think about life of muhammad who served just as the purpose of lust but nothing. To marry a child of nine years is just a frustration and sickness of a human who even can have sex with any animal.THIS IS WORST THEN GUYISM!!!! Please check your own hadith and spend some minutes to think, how and why its been posed on every muslim by Muhammed. First marraige with the lady age of 40 years and then MARRAIGE a child age of nine years. WHAT IS SEX between the age difference. O Dear ITS JUST LUST but not homo but more then what animal would not do either………..ISPASIBA
Posted by: Pani (1 comments) at June 22, 2007 6:12 PM
Pani: In your deep-seated hatred towards Islam & the Prophet (may peace & blessings me upon him ever) of Islam, you literally forgot that your whole excretion of biasness & repulsion is totally off topic. The topic, as any sane & two-eyed person can see, is “homosexuality in Islam; lawful or unlawful”. Do not try to deviate the comments threads from it. Regurgitate your personal thoughts at some other relevant site..
Coming back to your totally one-eyed, false, hopeless & provokingly pathetic allegations on Islam & Prophet of Islam, you made in light of your half cooked half baked knowledge of Islam; Suffice would it to say that before putting your thoughts (or rather dropping them off here & there, for that matter) please study Islam with two open eyes & non bias mind so that u can come across concrete facts that you in your pseudo-intellectualism have uptill now omitted. In display of your “personal thoughts” you wrote in adrenalized high tones: “This is clearly mentioned in Hadith and muslim books”. Innaa liLLahi wa inna ilehi rajioon..! We would be highly obliged, if u can spare some time & provide us with the viciously valuable nut shell of your study i.e. the references of Hadith & Islamic books (or e-books for that matter) with page # & reference #, pointing at the unique number of wives & extra marital relations you just mentioned.
Marrying at age of 25, with a noble lady of 40 who was a widow. Then spending 25 years with her till her death at age of 65 (Rasool Allah{s.a.w}was 50 then). Then married another widow of advance age “Umm ul Momineen Sauda(r.a)” (the mother of believers..Sauda), then married “Umm ul momineen Aisha(r.a)”; the first & last marriage with a non-widow. Some sources say she was 9, others more authentic say she 18-19 years when married. (Even if the objecting lot’s view is considered, the question remains; have you ever been to the desert of Arab yourself? If no, then well, my sincere suggestion to you is..do visit! before creating such an uproar on these matters. Allah enabled me not merely to visit but to observe with my “two” open eyes & non-bias wit that a girl aged nine does not at all look a girl of nine..even biologically.)
Then married 8 more ladies; all widows (some who became widow once, some bacame widow twice).
(References: Sahih Bukari 956/2; Rehmat-ul-lil-ALamin 165/2; Talqeeh-al-fahoom p:2)
In your intolerant partiality you moved further & wrote:”I feel sorry for the Muslim followers who just close their eyes and believe because they born in Muslim family”….Well Pani, we have exactly same feelings for you & people like you who just can not analyze matters beyond mere lust, who shut down their uncommon common sense & can not even logically (leave aside biologically or psychologically) prove that how come a man spending his springing youth with a widow of 40, for 25 years, suddenly feels a necessity to marry 10 more(all widows & only one non-widow). There is no other explanation save this that it was a matter of bringing clans together & creating peace between the fighting clans. But this clear-cut explanation is nearly impossible to be engulfed by sex-minded lust-oriented folks..
Some may wonder that I’m casting pearls before a swine. Well, these hard-to-swallow historical facts are for those who want to listen & believe, & as for those who never listen & rarely believe..well my pleasure. My prayers are for you & every one who doesn’t believe; may u grow up & share your differences in a more civilized humane way, may u stand out from your differences & seek knowledge with a more enlightened hate-free heart, may u get Hidayat (the light & the dare of opting the right path)
Its no big deal to spit, you see. But to spit on the sun is totally a different game; your spit returns to your face & makes a cuckoo out of u..
Posted by: S.M MD (4 comments) at June 26, 2007 12:41 PM
Hello to all…i think better if i explain in urdu/hindi language so that everyone can understand and think what is the good path to spend the life. Pls. just read as an interesting story:
Ager hum Islam kay hawalay say baat karien tou zahir hay Gay/Lesbian hona bilkul ghalat hay lekin ager hum routine life aur subha aur raat koo uthnay, soonay, milnay julnay walon per nazer dalien tou hum hamesha unhee say contact rakhtay hien joo hamien kiee bhee tarha say attract karien no matter woo interest kiya hoon lekin koi bhee bore topic/person/situation hamien uktahat dilatee hay aur hum phir tohree dier mien farar hoo jatay hien…hay kay nahee?
Hamaray dost, mahawl aur hamaree berhtee huee age hamien buhat say jazbat say aashna kerwatee hay lekin uss kay saath saath hamara apna aap hamein buhat kuch kernay per majbore kerta hay jaisay hamien pasindeeda khana naa milay tou hum usay bananay yaa pakanay kee koshish kertay hien yaa kuch bhee aisa kay bus woo mil jayay kha ker payt bher lien tou satisfaction hoo jatee hay isee tarha koi dost jisay hum chahien woo bayzar rahay hum say tou usay hasil kernay kay liyay her tarha say usay apnee taraf mayle kertay hien iss kay saath hamaree age hamaray under jazbat ubhaar rahee hootee hay yeah woo waqt hota hay jab her cheese asaan aur foree paa laynay kee dhun hootee hay mager according to everyone’s nature!
Sex kerna yeah phir hamara shauque, zaroorat aur phir zindagee ban jata hay…jiss society mein hum rehtay hien wahan her shakse ameer nahee her shakse ghareeb nahee mager jald shadee shayad hee ab kahee hootee hoon specialy males kee mager unn kaa jism unn kee bhook woo sab mangtee hay joo eik normal insaan kee hootee hay phir raastay nikalay jatay hien koi girls kee taraf tou koi guys kee taraf mager satisfaction donoo taraf say hee mil jatee hay….kam omree hootee hay tohray waday aur tohray jazbatee bandhan kay baad mazay liyay jatay hien aur phir woo yaad bhee nahee rehtay kay kabhee zindagee mein ayay bhee thay.
Waqt tohra agay hoota hay tou sex ab sirf zaroorat ban jata hay her raat yaa tohray arsay baad mager chahyay zaroor hoota hay warna phir nude photos and pornography start hotee hay bazahir sirf dekhnay per taskeen nahee hootee hay mager jazbat koo hawa miltee hay aur phir hum apnay under koo sakoon daynay kay liyay kisee bhee tarha say apnay apnay preferences(girls/guys) say satisfaction hasil kertay hien ager donoo naa milay tou masterbation kertay hien aur kuch dier kay liyay thanday per jatay hien lekin baar baar kaa maza hamien thakata nahee hay bulkay aur himmat berhata hay sex aur khub sex! mazay aur jitnay mazay lay sakhtay hien khub enjoy, fun aur masti kay koi hasrat naa rahay aur phir ager male to male yanee GAY hoon tou easily her taraf khubsoort larkay, aadmee joo even khubsoorat naa bhee hoon mager hamien taskeen kay liyay woo achay hee lagtay hien, unn say dil kay haal aur jism koo share kiya jata hay, Enjoy and totaly Enjoy!
Waqt agay berhta hay omer kaa hissa ager ab bhee bina shadee kay raha tou zaroorat ab majbooree bantee hay kay kiya karien shadee hoo gee tou choor dien gay yeah tou aisay hee part time fun hay mager hum apnee preferences badal chukay hootay hien apnay mizaj apnay shoque apnee batien sab lazzatien sirf aur sirf humjinsiyat say! shehwat (lust) ubhaartee hay her pal aur phir rah mien chaltay huay loogon say eye contacts, phones kay tabadlay aur phir bister tak baat aa hee jatee hay.
Yeah sab kisee khas society nahee bulkay Europe, USA, UK, Pakistan, India her jagah aisa hee hay kiyon kay hum sab insaan hien sab kay internal systems eik hee jaisay hien mard aur aurat her jagah hee hien shadee kaa naa hoona, late hoona, ameeree ghareebee, pasind naa pasind, mohabbat nafrat, sab jagah hay lekin kiya yahan hum eik baat nazer andaz ker gayay aur woo hay jis kee hum ibadat kertay hien jis koo hum maantay hien chahay woo koi bhee religion hoo jiss kay hum followers hien uss mein yeah allow tha/hay? ager nahee tou hum uss kay mannay walay tou nahee kehalwayay.
Being a muslim! hamein bhee iss baat say rooka gaya tha Quran kay wazah ehkamaat day ker hum namaz bhee perhien, haj/omray bhe karien, deenee mahwal koo pasind bhee karien, shadiyan bhe karien, lekin apnay under kay bachpanay yaa kam aqlee kee ghalat adat koo jaree rakhien wohee males say ager ab sex naa hoo sakay tou kam uz kam uss say rabitay rakhien kay uss kee sangat hamein khush rakhtee hay jisay hum mohabbat kaa naam daytay hien kay mein uss kay bina jee nahee sakhta.
Ager hum sahee hoona chahien tou uss kay liyay bhee Allah nay raasta bataya hay kiyon hum miracle kay intizar mein rahien kiyon hum baar baar gunah karien aur tauba phir gunah phir tauba yahan tak kay hamaree zindagee kaa kerwa sach eik galee ban jayay….aarzee lazzat hasil kernay kay liyay kiya hua pehla qadam saree zindagee kaa pachtawa banay. Yeah baat nahee kay joo hoo gaya ab uss say kaisay paltien ager aisa hoota tou hamaree paker kab kay hoo chukee hootee Allah hamien waqt dayta hay tohra aur jee lien aur islah ker lien baray say baray gunah maaf ker diyay jatay hien mager yeah jaan ker kay ab nahee karien gay phir bhee hoo jayein tou himmat naa harien apnee islah karien dekhien ager aap koo sex uksa raha hay tou uss wajah koo jayz tareeqay say kaisay khatam ker sakhtay hien…shadee nahee ker sakhtay tou mansoob hoo jayien kisee say lekin eik limit mein rehtay huay aur shehwat(lust) uksata hay tou tareeqa Allah nay bataya hay kay roozay rakhnay shoroo ker dien ager rozay continue naa rakh sakien tou koshish karien sunnat per amal karien raat koo sootay huay ulta naa soyien..nude pictures/films naa dekhien koi scene chahay woo straights kaa hee hoo naa dekhien namaz kee pabandee karien apnay dostoon say milnay julnay aur un say mazaque kernay mein eik fasla bana ker rakhein hum Euorpe/America kee societies nahee hien jahan per her tarha say GAY hoona protect kiya jaa raha hay hum muslims hien jis kay liyay Homeosexual hoona eik Gunah hay ager ghalatee say aap kay under yeah aa gaya hay tou dekhien kaisay door ker sakhtay hien, koshish karien mager miracle kay intizar mien naa rahien bulkay uss kee roots koo khatam karien jahan jahan say bhee zara see bhee aisee feelings hoon usay rook dien.
ZINDAGEE ABHEE GALEE NAHEE BANEE HAY! ROOK LIEN ISAY KAHEEN BERBADEE DERWAZOON SAY DAQIL HOO KER HAMARAY SAATH SAATH QABROON TAK NAA CHALEE JAYAY!
mien koi philospher nahee hoon aur naa hee tableeghee jamat say hoon mager aap jis tarha kaa rabita rakhna chahien mujhay mail ker dien j_pvance@yahoo.com per hum koshish ker kay achay aur tameeree dost ban sakhtay hien. Jaisee hee feelings mehsoos kertay hien even sexy bhee jaisee hee mails likh dien mien jawab doon gaa shayad mujh say hee aap koo kuch faida milay aur mujhay aap say, inshAllah!
Khan
Posted by: Khan (1 comments) at July 10, 2007 12:26 AM
Assalam o alaikum wrwb, (Peace, mercy & blessings of Allaah be upon you all)
Khan; Allow me to say its a very affectionate & not merely sympathetic but infact an empathetic comment. Its long yet worth reading for every one, specially for the commentator I first addressed; Aamir.
You rightly pointed out the way out i.e. Fasting, avoiding sleeping in prone position & abstaining from the stimulators.
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Posted by: Asad Jamal (1 comments) at August 23, 2007 10:20 AM
Youn teri tammana mere dil ko dukhaati rahi
Jab bhi muskuraana chahaa aankh bhar aati rahi
Umeedon ne banaa-banna ke tode mere khwaab
Baharon mein dil ki kali khil ke murjhaati rahi..
Thar-rati rahi ye sard palken garm ashqon se..
Aag paani se mil ke dhuven khoob udaati rahi
Na milaa koi saharaa hi na thaama kisi ne haath
Zindagi kadam-kadam pe thokaren khaati rahi.
Ab kuch nahin hai baaki unki chaahat ke sivaa
Aise gaye hain voh ke dil ki har khushi jaati rahi
Honth to dekhe mere tune muskuraate ae sanam
Zara dekh leta aankh bhi jo ashq bahaati rahi
Vo khaa kar gaya tha kasmein ise bhuul jaane ki.N
“Mujh ko phir bhi uski yaad kyon aati rahi.
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Zikr of Allah
Abu Darda narrated that Rasool Allah said, “Should I not tell you of such a thinga which are the best and purest deeds in the court of your Lord, high in ranks (darajat), better for you then spending gold and silver (in Allah’s path), and better than slaying the neck of the enemy during war? The Sahaba said, “Yes, Oh Rasool Allah! .” He said, “It is Zikr of Allah.” (Tirmizi)
Abu Huraira narrated that Rasool Allah said, “Any gathering in which people sit and do not do Zikr of Allah and do not send Durood upon their Prophet is of loss for them. If Allah wills, give them azab (punishment) and if wills, forgive them.” (Tirmizi)
Abu Huraira narrated that Rasool Allah said, “Allah Tabaraka wa Ta’ala says when a person moves his lips for Zikr of Allah, I am with him. “ (Bukhari)
Abu Huraira narrated that Rasool Allah said, “Allah Tabaraka wa Ta’ala says I am closer to my slave than his supposition of which he keeps of me. And when he/her does Zikr of Allah, I am with him/her. If he does Zikr in his heart, I do his Zikr near MY proximity (closeness) and if he does Zikr in a gathering, I mention him in a gathering Afdhal (better) than it. (Bukhari)
Abu Musa Ash’ari narrated that Rasool Allah said, “He/She who does Zikr of Allah and he/she who doesn’t, their example is of like an alive and a dead. (Bukhari)
Abu Huraira said that Rasool Allah said, “The angels look for those who do Zikr of Allah on the paths. When they find those who are doing Zikr of Allah then they call each other, “Come, your desired has been found.” Then those angels cover those are doing Zikr of Allah up to the skies of this world with their wings. And Allah Rabbul Izzat says about them to those angels “What are my slave doing?” Though Allah knows more than those angels. The angels say, “Those people are doing your Tasbeeh, Tahmeed, and Tamjeed.” Rab Ta’ala says, “Have they seen me?” The angels say, “We swear by your pure Entity, they have not seen you.” Rab Ta’ala says to them, “If they had seen me then what would be their state?” The angels say, “If they could’ve seen you then they would do your Tamjeed and your Tasbeeh even more.”
Rab Ta’ala says, “What slaves are asking from me?” The angels say, “They are asking for Jannat from you.” Rab Ta’ala says, “Have they seen Jannat?” The angels say, “We swear by Your Pure Entity, they have not seen Jannat.” Rab Ta’ala says, “If they had seen Jannat then what would be their state?” The angels say, “If these people had seen jannat then their greed, desire, and inclination for it would increase. Rab Ta’ala says, “What else are they doing?” The angels say, “They are seeking refuge.” Rab Ta’ala says, “From what are they seeking refuge?” The angels say, “They are seeking refuge from Hell.” Rab Ta’ala says, “Have they seen Hell?” The angels say, “Oh Rab, we swear by Your Pure Entity, they have not seen it.” Rab Ta’ala, “If they had seen it then what would be their state?” The angels say, “If they had seen it then they would run even further away from it and fear it even more.
Rab Ta’ala says, “angels, Be witnesses that I have forgiven them.” An angel says, “There is one person amongst them who is not part of those who do Zikr, he is there for some necessity of his/her.” Rab Ta’ala says, “These are such people that even those sitting among them are not deprived.” (Bukhari)
Anas narrated that Rasool Allah said, “When you pass by gardens of paradise, eat fruits of them. The Sahaba said, “What are the gardens of Paradise?” He said, “The gatherings of Zikr.” (Tirmizi)
Abu Huraira narrated Abu Saeed Khudri said that Rasool Allah said, “Whenever a Jama’at (a group of people) sits for Zikr of Allah, the angels surround it. Blessing covers that Jama’at. And peace and calm descends on them. And Allah mentions them to the angels present in HIS court. (Muslim)
Ameer Muaviah narrated that the Rasool Allah passed by a Jama’at and asked them, “Why have you gathered here?” Some people of the Jammat replied, “We have gathered here for the Zikr and Hamd of Allah because by guiding us towards Islam He did favor on us. Rasool Allah said, “By Allah, have you gathered only for this (purpose)?” They said, “By Allah, we have gathered here only for such purpose. Rasool Allah said, “I did not give you oath because of any imputation (doubt) rather it is because Jibraeel came to me and told me that Allah Azzawajal boasts of you in the gathering of the angels. (Muslim)
Abdullah Bin Abbas narrated that Rasool Allah said, “The Shaitan sticks to the heart of the child of Adam. When he does Zikr of Allah, he (the Shaitan) runs away from him. And when the child of Adam becomes careless from the Zikr of Allah, the Shaitan begins to put was-wasah (evil suggestions) into his heart. (Bukhari)
Abdullah Bin Umar narrated that Rasool Allah said, “Don’t have a conversation [without] Zikr of Allah. Because talking too much without Zikr of Allah is the reason for the heart’s hardness and wretchedness. And that person becomes distant from Allah in whose heart there is wretchedness. (Tirmizi)
Abudullah Bin Bisr narrated that one person asked, “Ya Rasool Allah! There are many commands on me of Islam. Tell me of such a thing which I may hold on to steadfast. Rasool Allah replied, “Always keep your tongue wet from Zikr of Allah.” (Tirmizi)
Abdullah Bin Bisr narrated that a villager came to the Holy Court of Rasool Allah and asked, “Which man is the best?” Rasool Allah said, “It is the luck and good-fortune of that person whose life is long and his deeds are good.” He asked, “Ya Rasool Allah! Which deed is the best?” Rasool Allah said, “Your tongue be wet from Zikr of Allah when you part from this world. (Tirmizi)
Muaaz bin Jabal narrated that Rasool Allah said, “The people of Jannat will only regret that moment which had been empty of Zikr of Allah.” (Beheqi)
Islamic Academy
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I wanted to tell that being gay is natural, so i don’t think its sin to do gay sex because god made us gay. Don’t the gays want to do sex freely, Don’t they have feelings, mind, eyes……..
I am gay, Actually I was born Gay, I live in Pakistan & I know if some one will know then I will be executed!!!
But WHY????
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Have A Good Day!
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Posted by: salman khan (1 comments) at May 16, 2008 12:06 PM
im not a ficking prude or a conservative niether a practicing muslim myself. but im not a hypocirte like many other “enlightnend new age muslims”
all the religion requires is to pray and stay away from the HARAM acts. the few HARAM acts ie adultery, alcohol, gay-hood, bribery etc.
now if a person believes in the religion and believes that there is going to be a heaven and hell and cares about religion why cant he/she stay away from the things that are specifically HARAM? nobody is asking you to stop listening to music and doing photography bcos thats just stupid fundamentalism.
i drink and have premarital sex. WHY bcos now i consider myself to be non-religious. but i can assure you that if only i folled the religion i would stop the acts that are HARAM bcos im not a fucking hypocrite. you cannot be wishy washy and say ” yaar aaj kal to aisa ho hi jata hai” you so called muslims say this bcos deep down you have your doubts over everything. all you hypocrites who do drugs, alcohol, premarital sex and casual affairs but at the same time want to be known as “modern muslims” actually deep down believe its all bullshit.
look. you have to make choices. if you believe in a religoin then the very first CONDITION is to stop those activites that are FORBIDDEN SPECIFICALLY in it.
otherwise why dont you assholes just call yourself NON-RELIGIOUS like me and do what ever debauchery and faggothood you wanna do ??? nobody is gonna say anything to you.
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Compassion and respect for others who are different from us in any way, whether in religious doctrine or in sexual orientation, is something we need to have a lot more of in the Muslim community.
Amen.