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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2004/07/bruised-pakistanis/comment-page-1/#comment-9560</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;shahbaz: Wishing harm on somebody is not good.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shahbaz: Wishing harm on somebody is not good.</p>
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		<title>By: shahbaz</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2004/07/bruised-pakistanis/comment-page-1/#comment-9559</link>
		<dc:creator>shahbaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;americans should be attacked once again !!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>americans should be attacked once again !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2004/07/bruised-pakistanis/comment-page-1/#comment-9558</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 03:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brett: You might be up to something there.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett: You might be up to something there.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett A. Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2004/07/bruised-pakistanis/comment-page-1/#comment-9557</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett A. Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think this may just be shoddy reporting.  I’d really like to see the original memo; I think the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;CNN &lt;/span&gt;reporter may have been reading more into this than there was.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Specifically, the original story says “…monitor all travellers of Pakistani origin, including US citizens.”  In that context, &lt;strong&gt;origin&lt;/strong&gt; to me would imply “people travelling from Pakistan,” regardless of their ethnicity, including US citizens.  Certainly something inspectors could tell from a person’s travel documentation, without having to examine their earlobes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, the question is, did the original memo go on to talk about people of Pakistani “descent” or did the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;CNN &lt;/span&gt;reporter assume that “origin” meant “descent?”  Without reading the memo ourselves, we can’t seperate bigotry from poor reporting.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this may just be shoddy reporting.  I’d really like to see the original memo; I think the <span class="caps">CNN </span>reporter may have been reading more into this than there was.</p>
<p>Specifically, the original story says “…monitor all travellers of Pakistani origin, including US citizens.”  In that context, <strong>origin</strong> to me would imply “people travelling from Pakistan,” regardless of their ethnicity, including US citizens.  Certainly something inspectors could tell from a person’s travel documentation, without having to examine their earlobes.</p>
<p>Now, the question is, did the original memo go on to talk about people of Pakistani “descent” or did the <span class="caps">CNN </span>reporter assume that “origin” meant “descent?”  Without reading the memo ourselves, we can’t seperate bigotry from poor reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2004/07/bruised-pakistanis/comment-page-1/#comment-9556</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 22:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;stress: &lt;i&gt;I think it’s in the eyebrows right? Or the earlobes?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Earlobes. That’s why I gre my hair long to hide the marks. :-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;reverse brain drain&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From anecdotal evidence, most Pakistanis leaving the US end up in Canada rather than Pakistan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A Pakistani: The Pakistani government does strange and contradictory things all the time. The memo, however, was definitely written from an air-conditioned room. :-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Moiz: That’s why I am sort of conflicted about this.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stress: <i>I think it’s in the eyebrows right? Or the earlobes?</i></p>
<p>Earlobes. That’s why I gre my hair long to hide the marks. <img src='http://www.zackvision.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>reverse brain drain</i></p>
<p>From anecdotal evidence, most Pakistanis leaving the US end up in Canada rather than Pakistan.</p>
<p>A Pakistani: The Pakistani government does strange and contradictory things all the time. The memo, however, was definitely written from an air-conditioned room. <img src='http://www.zackvision.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Moiz: That’s why I am sort of conflicted about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Moiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well americans have aright to safeguard their interests and make sure they are not attacked again.  well i know i wouldnt agree with the way they are doing this but  u know…&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well americans have aright to safeguard their interests and make sure they are not attacked again.  well i know i wouldnt agree with the way they are doing this but  u know…</p>
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		<title>By: A Pakistani</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Pakistani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;After reading the said memo, my first impression was that some hired agent of the US agengies has given a report that he/she prepared comfortably sitting in airconditioned room of a 5-star hotel, and that he/she has no knowledge what is going around. &lt;br /&gt;
Pakistan government who, just to get to a few (dubbed) well-wishers of Taliban in Wana (Wazirastan), killed dozens of innocent Pakistanis (women &amp; children included) and razed to ground hundreds of houses/shops of poor people, how can it allow any terrorist training in Pakistan?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the said memo, my first impression was that some hired agent of the US agengies has given a report that he/she prepared comfortably sitting in airconditioned room of a 5-star hotel, and that he/she has no knowledge what is going around. <br />
Pakistan government who, just to get to a few (dubbed) well-wishers of Taliban in Wana (Wazirastan), killed dozens of innocent Pakistanis (women &amp; children included) and razed to ground hundreds of houses/shops of poor people, how can it allow any terrorist training in Pakistan?</p>
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		<title>By: stress</title>
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		<dc:creator>stress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 03:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it’s in the eyebrows right? Or the earlobes?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I saw a pretty good &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BBC &lt;/span&gt;program the other day about Pakistani immigrants in the US post September 11th. They talked to a lot of people who were deported for minor visa violations. It was pretty sad -  a lot of parents torn between bringing their American kids with them or not (the kids usually prefered the US and stability but obviously wanted to be with their parents). One interesting detail they got from talking to some young Pakistanis (in Pak) was that they thought a silver lining might be a reverse brain drain - that if educated and motivated Pakistanis were forced to go back they would improve the situation there.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it’s in the eyebrows right? Or the earlobes?</p>
<p>I saw a pretty good <span class="caps">BBC </span>program the other day about Pakistani immigrants in the US post September 11th. They talked to a lot of people who were deported for minor visa violations. It was pretty sad &#8211;  a lot of parents torn between bringing their American kids with them or not (the kids usually prefered the US and stability but obviously wanted to be with their parents). One interesting detail they got from talking to some young Pakistanis (in Pak) was that they thought a silver lining might be a reverse brain drain &#8211; that if educated and motivated Pakistanis were forced to go back they would improve the situation there.</p>
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		<title>By: memigo</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2004/07/bruised-pakistanis/comment-page-1/#comment-9561</link>
		<dc:creator>memigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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