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		<title>By: Conrad Barwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conrad Barwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 03:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Conrad: What’s wrong with Hamilton except that he’s been dead for 200 years? And that he died in a duel with the then Vice President&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, I am kind of surprised that you ask this question but here is my basic beef:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;She must be young, handsome (I lay most stress upon a good shape), sensible (a little learning will do), well-bred&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ignoring the ageism implicit here (I mean what is wrong with older women) what is AH looking for here; a spouse or a riding horse?! I especially like the touch about a ‘little learning will do’ I would have thought that it would be nice to at least have someone of similar learning or capability to himself; marriage being a relationship between equals and all that; but I guess he doesn’t want a woman who is smarter than him! I am not even going to go into what all the business about ‘good shape’ means, I don’t know whether it refers to some level of buxom-ness or a slender figure, in anycase someone needs to have a word with Hamilton about these body-fascist tendencies. I mean this is meant to be somebody he is going to be spending a good chunk of his life with, not a riding trophy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;but she must have an aversion to the word ton, chaste and tender (I am an enthusiast in my notions of fidelity and fondness&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, I am not going to pretend I know what ‘ton’ is a reference to, but this whole ‘chaste and tender’ business comes across as more slightly Victorian; I mean I know he was writing 200 years ago but things have moved on since then and even in his day they weren’t all that staid. I also get the feeling that any ‘chasteness’ here would be strictly uni-directional, as was typical of marriages in that time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;In politics, I am indifferent what side she may be of (I think I have arguments that will easily convert her to mine&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have to admit that this is the real howler for me – either Hamilton didn’t really meet that many women, or I have come across very different women from him. My experience is that any man who thinks like this is quite quickly disabused of such notions. There was an old proverb that I forget exactly which runs something like ‘as patient and deadly as a crocodile’s grip is the argument of a woman’. Either way I wouldn’t give much for way of domestic bliss for anybody who pulls this kind of approach these days in the search for an ideal wife.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Though I run no risk of going to purgatory for my avarice, yet as money is an essential ingredient to happiness in this world—as I have not much of my own and as I am very little calculated to get more either by my address or industry—it must needs be that my wife, if I get one, bring at least a sufficiency to administer to her own extravagancies.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh man, does this guy have no shame – after having said that he isn’t really bothered about money and is not calculating about it; he insists that any future wife bring her own spending fortune. While he may say he doesn’t like ‘economists’ especially for a potential bride, he sure comes across as one himself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I didn’t get the Karate Kid reference either even though I have watched all the Karate movies.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It just strikes me as an odd movie to choose to cuddle to; not that I am anti-cuddling or anything but I would have expected a different choice of movie. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Conrad: What’s wrong with Hamilton except that he’s been dead for 200 years? And that he died in a duel with the then Vice President</i></p>
<p>Well, I am kind of surprised that you ask this question but here is my basic beef:</p>
<p><i>She must be young, handsome (I lay most stress upon a good shape), sensible (a little learning will do), well-bred</i></p>
<p>Ignoring the ageism implicit here (I mean what is wrong with older women) what is AH looking for here; a spouse or a riding horse?! I especially like the touch about a ‘little learning will do’ I would have thought that it would be nice to at least have someone of similar learning or capability to himself; marriage being a relationship between equals and all that; but I guess he doesn’t want a woman who is smarter than him! I am not even going to go into what all the business about ‘good shape’ means, I don’t know whether it refers to some level of buxom-ness or a slender figure, in anycase someone needs to have a word with Hamilton about these body-fascist tendencies. I mean this is meant to be somebody he is going to be spending a good chunk of his life with, not a riding trophy.</p>
<p><i>but she must have an aversion to the word ton, chaste and tender (I am an enthusiast in my notions of fidelity and fondness</i></p>
<p>Again, I am not going to pretend I know what ‘ton’ is a reference to, but this whole ‘chaste and tender’ business comes across as more slightly Victorian; I mean I know he was writing 200 years ago but things have moved on since then and even in his day they weren’t all that staid. I also get the feeling that any ‘chasteness’ here would be strictly uni-directional, as was typical of marriages in that time.</p>
<p><i>In politics, I am indifferent what side she may be of (I think I have arguments that will easily convert her to mine</i></p>
<p>I have to admit that this is the real howler for me – either Hamilton didn’t really meet that many women, or I have come across very different women from him. My experience is that any man who thinks like this is quite quickly disabused of such notions. There was an old proverb that I forget exactly which runs something like ‘as patient and deadly as a crocodile’s grip is the argument of a woman’. Either way I wouldn’t give much for way of domestic bliss for anybody who pulls this kind of approach these days in the search for an ideal wife.</p>
<p><i>Though I run no risk of going to purgatory for my avarice, yet as money is an essential ingredient to happiness in this world—as I have not much of my own and as I am very little calculated to get more either by my address or industry—it must needs be that my wife, if I get one, bring at least a sufficiency to administer to her own extravagancies.</i></p>
<p>Oh man, does this guy have no shame – after having said that he isn’t really bothered about money and is not calculating about it; he insists that any future wife bring her own spending fortune. While he may say he doesn’t like ‘economists’ especially for a potential bride, he sure comes across as one himself.</p>
<p><i>I didn’t get the Karate Kid reference either even though I have watched all the Karate movies.</i></p>
<p>It just strikes me as an odd movie to choose to cuddle to; not that I am anti-cuddling or anything but I would have expected a different choice of movie. </p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hamilton - you’d get to be mixed up in an exciting part of history and he must have been a highly intelligent character.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamilton &#8211; you’d get to be mixed up in an exciting part of history and he must have been a highly intelligent character.</p>
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		<title>By: lucia</title>
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		<dc:creator>lucia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I suspect Hamilton was over estimating his  powers of persuasion.  After all, he died in a duel  because he tended to get in arguments with people who he failed to persuade to his side.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, I had to laugh at the part where Hamilton claimed he admired fidelity.  I assume he meant in &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; wife.  He seemed to enjoy the infidelity of &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; men’s wives. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If I have the story straight it’s this: Hamilton had an affair with a married woman.  Her husband got angry. Hamilton paid off the husband — which seemed to make the hubby less angry. Rumors emerged.  People were worried Hamiton had dipped into the US Treasury to fund the payoff—but Hamilton explained he used his own money.  Sexual mores of the day being what they were, everyone said “all righty then”, and the scandal blew over.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think Hamilton would have been a good husband. However, to really decide, you should post pictures.  Looks matter.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect Hamilton was over estimating his  powers of persuasion.  After all, he died in a duel  because he tended to get in arguments with people who he failed to persuade to his side.</p>
<p>Also, I had to laugh at the part where Hamilton claimed he admired fidelity.  I assume he meant in <i>his</i> wife.  He seemed to enjoy the infidelity of <i>other</i> men’s wives. </p>
<p>If I have the story straight it’s this: Hamilton had an affair with a married woman.  Her husband got angry. Hamilton paid off the husband — which seemed to make the hubby less angry. Rumors emerged.  People were worried Hamiton had dipped into the US Treasury to fund the payoff—but Hamilton explained he used his own money.  Sexual mores of the day being what they were, everyone said “all righty then”, and the scandal blew over.</p>
<p>I don’t think Hamilton would have been a good husband. However, to really decide, you should post pictures.  Looks matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hijabman - okay, i take it back… :-)  But metrosexuals are heterosexual…. just with homosexual quirks (like decorating, cooking, etc.) - don’t worry - it’s a compliment.  They’re the best of the guys.  :-)  They can cook, they’re clean, and they take care of themselves.  We like that.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hijabman &#8211; okay, i take it back… <img src='http://www.zackvision.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   But metrosexuals are heterosexual…. just with homosexual quirks (like decorating, cooking, etc.) &#8211; don’t worry &#8211; it’s a compliment.  They’re the best of the guys.  <img src='http://www.zackvision.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   They can cook, they’re clean, and they take care of themselves.  We like that.</p>
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		<title>By: HijabMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>HijabMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, I am not of the homosexual or metrosexual variety.  I’m a heterosexual, low maintenance kinda guy, 2 rinses, 3 rinses, it don’t matter to hijabman!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Munira, you are still climbing up the hill, you aren’t over it yet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;:)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I am not of the homosexual or metrosexual variety.  I’m a heterosexual, low maintenance kinda guy, 2 rinses, 3 rinses, it don’t matter to hijabman!</p>
<p>And Munira, you are still climbing up the hill, you aren’t over it yet.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.zackvision.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Conrad: What’s wrong with Hamilton except that he’s been dead for 200 years? And that he died in a duel with the then Vice President.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I didn’t get the Karate Kid reference either even though I have watched all the Karate movies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Renee: So you did. My bad.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conrad: What’s wrong with Hamilton except that he’s been dead for 200 years? And that he died in a duel with the then Vice President.</p>
<p>I didn’t get the Karate Kid reference either even though I have watched all the Karate movies.</p>
<p>Renee: So you did. My bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, I quoted Hamilton.  He sounds too high maintenance though.  Hijabman may be too though.  That Basmati Rice colored skin twice or was it thrice rinsed.  Sheesh these metrosexuals ;)  j/k.  Karate Kid II actually upped his ratings for me…lol.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I quoted Hamilton.  He sounds too high maintenance though.  Hijabman may be too though.  That Basmati Rice colored skin twice or was it thrice rinsed.  Sheesh these metrosexuals <img src='http://www.zackvision.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   j/k.  Karate Kid II actually upped his ratings for me…lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Munira Ajmal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Munira Ajmal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like both.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But alas! Hamilton is too old for me and Hijabman too young ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>But alas! Hamilton is too old for me and Hijabman too young <img src='http://www.zackvision.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: HijabMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>HijabMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 01:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I actually liked some of what Hamilton had to say, and may incorporate some of his into my statement lol.. okay just bits and pieces like not loving money :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually liked some of what Hamilton had to say, and may incorporate some of his into my statement lol.. okay just bits and pieces like not loving money <img src='http://www.zackvision.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Conrad Barwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conrad Barwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would seriously worry about anyone who would choose Hamilton here, but hey, different strokes. Not too sure about that Karate Kid II reference though!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would seriously worry about anyone who would choose Hamilton here, but hey, different strokes. Not too sure about that Karate Kid II reference though!</p>
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