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پیر 13 جون 2005Monday, June 13, 2005
"Collapse: Why Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed" By Jared Diamond
Overall, Diamond’s latest book lacks the strength of Guns, Germs and Steel. With statements about getting to things later laced throughout the text, he seems rushed. His discussions about societies that executed face-plants are quite interesting, but the picture he paints of the underlying forces leaves something to be desired. Given that my research relates to this line of thought, many of his observations were not new for me. Injunctions to curb and halt population growth, prevent deforestation and avoid farming marginal land did not surprise me. Most failed civilizations deforested marginal land to feed unrestrained population expansion.
After identifying the positive feedback loop, one must identify the governing negative feedback loop(s) that failed in each instance. It is not sufficient, for example, to tell Brazilian soybean farmers with growing families to stop slash and burn agriculture in the Amazon because their new plots of marginal land will be exhausted in 5 years. They have families to feed, and the ever-growing Chinese population is willing to pay for soy. While informing the farmers might help, changes in societal and economic signals would prove more effective. For instance, strong societal traditions of small families working ancestral plots of land discourages slash and burn agriculture, and placing a high economic value on the rainforest (natural capital) discourages destroying it. Diamond does not explore such signals at length. He repeatedly mentions the importance of adjusting social values but stops short of discussing the important question of how.
Posted by Captain Arrrgh at June 13, 2005 11:02 AM in Books
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Posted by: kianoush (122 comments) at June 13, 2005 5:25 PM
What I am interested in is how much Diamond focus on understanding and explaining the examples of societal collapse versus using them as examples for the present. Those specific cases can teach us something but does Diamond do justice to them on their own? Or does he yield those examples as a bad environmentalist might?
Posted by: Zack (1838 comments) at June 15, 2005 11:42 PM | PGP Sig
Tonight, at 11 PM (EST) there is the premiere of a National Geography documentary based on Guns, Germs and Steel on PBS.
Posted by: kianoush (122 comments) at July 11, 2005 10:53 AM
kianoush: I believe it is at 10pm.
Posted by: Zack (1838 comments) at July 11, 2005 8:38 PM
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Diamond in his books has some brilliant ideas and explanations, but sometimes he goes too far with less strong logical reasoning.