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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2006/07/who-is-a-muslim/comment-page-1/#comment-11543</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wellwisher: Thanks for the link. I already am a member.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wellwisher: Thanks for the link. I already am a member.</p>
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		<title>By: Wellwisher</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2006/07/who-is-a-muslim/comment-page-1/#comment-11542</link>
		<dc:creator>Wellwisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 18:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An interesting debate on the problem of &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;TAKFIR &lt;/span&gt;on this link. I also commented on it in particular with regard to the problems created by the declaration of Takfir - by 72 sects of Islam - against Qadiyanis/Ahmadis:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://eteraz.org/story/2007/2/2/23340/21631&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a lively debate. Create your account there and join in!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting debate on the problem of <span class="caps">TAKFIR </span>on this link. I also commented on it in particular with regard to the problems created by the declaration of Takfir &#8211; by 72 sects of Islam &#8211; against Qadiyanis/Ahmadis:</p>
<p><a href="http://eteraz.org/story/2007/2/2/23340/21631" rel="nofollow">http://eteraz.org/story/2007/2/2/23340/21631</a></p>
<p>It’s a lively debate. Create your account there and join in!</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2006/07/who-is-a-muslim/comment-page-1/#comment-11541</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 03:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Muslim: And you are not?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On a more serious note, while other Murjite positions were rejected by the later Asharites, their position on not rebelling against even unjust Muslim rulers was adopted by most Muslim jurists.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muslim: And you are not?</p>
<p>On a more serious note, while other Murjite positions were rejected by the later Asharites, their position on not rebelling against even unjust Muslim rulers was adopted by most Muslim jurists.</p>
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		<title>By: Muslim</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2006/07/who-is-a-muslim/comment-page-1/#comment-11540</link>
		<dc:creator>Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Murjiites are deviant.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murjiites are deviant.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2006/07/who-is-a-muslim/comment-page-1/#comment-11539</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 01:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;saad: The topic under discussion though is not what God would do on the Day of Judgment but rather can we, humans without complete knowledge, decide and classify Muslims.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Leila:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;post more post more!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks. I’ll as soon as I can find some time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for shahada, is it truly necessary (your school, of course) to be verbal (for those who speak) and public?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think it has to be verbal or public, though I can think of situations in which a public declaration of faith would be useful as well as situations where it won’t be advisable (and we can find both sort of examples from history.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My school? There is no school, it’s just me!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saad: The topic under discussion though is not what God would do on the Day of Judgment but rather can we, humans without complete knowledge, decide and classify Muslims.</p>
<p>Leila:</p>
<blockquote><p>post more post more!</p>
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<p>Thanks. I’ll as soon as I can find some time.</p>
<blockquote><p>As for shahada, is it truly necessary (your school, of course) to be verbal (for those who speak) and public?</p>
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<p>I don’t think it has to be verbal or public, though I can think of situations in which a public declaration of faith would be useful as well as situations where it won’t be advisable (and we can find both sort of examples from history.)</p>
<p>My school? There is no school, it’s just me!</p>
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		<title>By: Wa Salaam</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2006/07/who-is-a-muslim/comment-page-1/#comment-11545</link>
		<dc:creator>Wa Salaam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;How Do Muslims Pray?&lt;/strong&gt;

Let me tell you a little secret&#8230; I have been waiting nearly six months to make a post like this. I wanted to wait until readership for Wa Salaam was at a level where it could actually be of benefit. So where do we start?
Well lets start with the ...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>How Do Muslims Pray?</strong></p>
<p>Let me tell you a little secret&#8230; I have been waiting nearly six months to make a post like this. I wanted to wait until readership for Wa Salaam was at a level where it could actually be of benefit. So where do we start?<br />
Well lets start with the &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wa Salaam</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2006/07/who-is-a-muslim/comment-page-1/#comment-11544</link>
		<dc:creator>Wa Salaam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Being Muslim: My First &amp; Last Rant&lt;/strong&gt;

Over years I have come to learn and love the wisdom of my tradition, Al-Qur&#8217;an, Al-Sunnah fil nabiyy islam and the culture and dress. I have learned that a man and woman&#8217;s appearance tells a story about them. From our hairstyle or head-cove...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Being Muslim: My First &amp; Last Rant</strong></p>
<p>Over years I have come to learn and love the wisdom of my tradition, Al-Qur&#8217;an, Al-Sunnah fil nabiyy islam and the culture and dress. I have learned that a man and woman&#8217;s appearance tells a story about them. From our hairstyle or head-cove&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Leila</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2006/07/who-is-a-muslim/comment-page-1/#comment-11538</link>
		<dc:creator>Leila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;post more post more!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for shahada, is it truly necessary (your school, of course) to be verbal (forthose who speak) and public?  Point being: isn’t belief enough?  Just curious, of course&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some fascinating digression on the Murjiite point of view and the possible connection to acceptance of oppression…  Hadn’t thought of it in that way before. though.  Interesting&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>post more post more!</p>
<p>As for shahada, is it truly necessary (your school, of course) to be verbal (forthose who speak) and public?  Point being: isn’t belief enough?  Just curious, of course</p>
<p>Some fascinating digression on the Murjiite point of view and the possible connection to acceptance of oppression…  Hadn’t thought of it in that way before. though.  Interesting</p>
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		<title>By: saad</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2006/07/who-is-a-muslim/comment-page-1/#comment-11537</link>
		<dc:creator>saad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 16:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Salams&lt;br /&gt;
There is a hadith that a person who doesn’t offer namaz regularly and is not repentent on it then his ending would be with ummayya bin khalf, pharoh and karoon. &lt;br /&gt;
and there are hadiths that in the end times a group of people will make wine, music and silk halaal for themselves and once thet will be having a party by a mountainside and they will be struck by land slide and nothing will remain of them in the morning.&lt;br /&gt;
Second one is from bukhari and first one is from another authentic book.&lt;br /&gt;
Both these hadiths show that we have to know the halaal and haraam and important rituals to earn God’s salvation.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salams<br />
There is a hadith that a person who doesn’t offer namaz regularly and is not repentent on it then his ending would be with ummayya bin khalf, pharoh and karoon. <br />
and there are hadiths that in the end times a group of people will make wine, music and silk halaal for themselves and once thet will be having a party by a mountainside and they will be struck by land slide and nothing will remain of them in the morning.<br />
Second one is from bukhari and first one is from another authentic book.<br />
Both these hadiths show that we have to know the halaal and haraam and important rituals to earn God’s salvation.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaykhspeara</title>
		<link>http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2006/07/who-is-a-muslim/comment-page-1/#comment-11536</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaykhspeara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 08:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ajmal, indeed. However, what is to do something that is clearly stated as something that will lead you to become a kafir?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is only one thing that can be done that God does not pardon in the afterlife and that is dieing while still placing other deities beside Him. At the same time a non Believer who previously did so and repented and accepted a belief in one God is pardoned…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Every other issue that would lead one to acquiring the qualities of a kafir, or mushrik (for there are many levels of shirk and kufr), is pardonable and forgivable if repented from. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Therefor one can say quite comfortably that a) we have not the right knowledge nor mandate to determine who is a kafir or not, not even based on what little information we know about acting in kufr or shirk.&lt;br /&gt;
And b) like the Prophet pbuh himself said, we should be so busy in correcting ourselves that we do not take notice of other peoples faults…let alone matters of their inner most selves…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A very interesting post!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ajmal, indeed. However, what is to do something that is clearly stated as something that will lead you to become a kafir?</p>
<p>There is only one thing that can be done that God does not pardon in the afterlife and that is dieing while still placing other deities beside Him. At the same time a non Believer who previously did so and repented and accepted a belief in one God is pardoned…</p>
<p>Every other issue that would lead one to acquiring the qualities of a kafir, or mushrik (for there are many levels of shirk and kufr), is pardonable and forgivable if repented from. </p>
<p>Therefor one can say quite comfortably that a) we have not the right knowledge nor mandate to determine who is a kafir or not, not even based on what little information we know about acting in kufr or shirk.<br />
And b) like the Prophet pbuh himself said, we should be so busy in correcting ourselves that we do not take notice of other peoples faults…let alone matters of their inner most selves…</p>
<p>A very interesting post!</p>
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