Comments on: The End of Pakistan http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2007/11/the-end-of-pakistan/ The art of keeping up with yesterday's blogging Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:51:12 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Zack http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2007/11/the-end-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12127 Zack Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:41:32 +0000 http://www.zackvision.com/?p=1742#comment-12127 <p>Frank: I don’t think that’s practical. Or even popular.</p> Frank: I don’t think that’s practical. Or even popular.

]]> By: Procrastination http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2007/11/the-end-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12129 Procrastination Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:32:06 +0000 http://www.zackvision.com/?p=1742#comment-12129 <strong>Black Flag Week</strong> Aitzaz Ahsan has declared this week to be Black Flag Week to protest for the restoration of the Pakistani judiciary. Let's all take part in this week. Black Flag Week

Aitzaz Ahsan has declared this week to be Black Flag Week to protest for the restoration of the Pakistani judiciary. Let’s all take part in this week.

]]> By: frank http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2007/11/the-end-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12126 frank Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:48:28 +0000 http://www.zackvision.com/?p=1742#comment-12126 <p>pakistan must split into 5 states, baluchistan , pathanistan, punjab, sind and kashmir… its no good as it is</p> pakistan must split into 5 states, baluchistan , pathanistan, punjab, sind and kashmir… its no good as it is

]]> By: Zack http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2007/11/the-end-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12125 Zack Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:26:58 +0000 http://www.zackvision.com/?p=1742#comment-12125 <p>Khurram: Welcome to the blog! I am heartened at the law community but disappointed with the politicians’ response to the emergency. I am not sure what we can do for Pakistan from here.</p> <p>lost bedouin: Welcome.</p> Khurram: Welcome to the blog! I am heartened at the law community but disappointed with the politicians’ response to the emergency. I am not sure what we can do for Pakistan from here.

lost bedouin: Welcome.

]]> By: Procrastination http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2007/11/the-end-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12128 Procrastination Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:20:58 +0000 http://www.zackvision.com/?p=1742#comment-12128 <strong>Some Thoughts on Pakistan</strong> This martial law is basically a coup against the higher judiciary. While lawyers are protesting, the politicians are still inactive. This might empower the militants. The US must reject dictatorship in Pakistan. Some Thoughts on Pakistan

This martial law is basically a coup against the higher judiciary. While lawyers are protesting, the politicians are still inactive. This might empower the militants. The US must reject dictatorship in Pakistan.

]]> By: Ajmal http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2007/11/the-end-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12124 Ajmal Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:48:06 +0000 http://www.zackvision.com/?p=1742#comment-12124 <p>Pervaz Musharraf has always been power-hungry. He designed Kargil episode to become hero and became zero because he had not revealed the correct position to the then Prime Minister, Nawaz Sharif. Then there was chance of a court martial against Pervez Musharraf. God know what stopped Nawaz Sharif from doing so. Later, Pervez Musharraf planned overthrowing of government when Nawaz Shaif was out of Islamabad. When the take-over process started, some-one informed Nawaz Sharif who dashed to Islamabad and signed dismissal orders of Pervez Musharraf but it was too late because when he tried to fax the decision to the President, the telephone lines were not working brcause those had been cut. Army had surrounded Prime Minister house at 5:30 <span class="caps">PM.</span> Musharraf’s plae entered Pakistan air space much later at 7:55 PM but Musharraf played highjacking drama. </p> Pervaz Musharraf has always been power-hungry. He designed Kargil episode to become hero and became zero because he had not revealed the correct position to the then Prime Minister, Nawaz Sharif. Then there was chance of a court martial against Pervez Musharraf. God know what stopped Nawaz Sharif from doing so. Later, Pervez Musharraf planned overthrowing of government when Nawaz Shaif was out of Islamabad. When the take-over process started, some-one informed Nawaz Sharif who dashed to Islamabad and signed dismissal orders of Pervez Musharraf but it was too late because when he tried to fax the decision to the President, the telephone lines were not working brcause those had been cut. Army had surrounded Prime Minister house at 5:30 PM. Musharraf’s plae entered Pakistan air space much later at 7:55 PM but Musharraf played highjacking drama.

]]> By: Ajmal http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2007/11/the-end-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12123 Ajmal Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:25:12 +0000 http://www.zackvision.com/?p=1742#comment-12123 <p>Declaring Martial Law giving name of Emergency appears to be a well prepared plan. Pervez Musharraf has been creating crises after crisis in Pakistan since the start of this year. None of the so-called suicide bombers has so far been recognized. Many people in Pakistan forcefully say that the blasts, including those in Karachi on arrival of Benazir were the handiwork of agencies. Musharraf decided to doff off uniform after having his right-hand man in position to protect him (Musharraf). I will not be surprised if there suddenly comes an announcement that, seeing the situation in the country, General Kiani has taken over in the “best interest of Pakistan” as so far Musharraf has been saying. Military dictator suit American administration. </p> Declaring Martial Law giving name of Emergency appears to be a well prepared plan. Pervez Musharraf has been creating crises after crisis in Pakistan since the start of this year. None of the so-called suicide bombers has so far been recognized. Many people in Pakistan forcefully say that the blasts, including those in Karachi on arrival of Benazir were the handiwork of agencies. Musharraf decided to doff off uniform after having his right-hand man in position to protect him (Musharraf). I will not be surprised if there suddenly comes an announcement that, seeing the situation in the country, General Kiani has taken over in the “best interest of Pakistan” as so far Musharraf has been saying. Military dictator suit American administration.

]]> By: lost bedouin http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2007/11/the-end-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12122 lost bedouin Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:42:12 +0000 http://www.zackvision.com/?p=1742#comment-12122 <p>G, I quite agree with your assessment of why Mushy decided to take over the govt. I didnt realize it until I read his so-called memoirs.. It is just glaringly obvious that these are all attempts at power. </p> <p>When talking about Mushy I have often quoted the following:</p> <p>“Power corrupts, Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”</p> <p>- lost bedouin ( Starbucklets)</p> G, I quite agree with your assessment of why Mushy decided to take over the govt. I didnt realize it until I read his so-called memoirs.. It is just glaringly obvious that these are all attempts at power.

When talking about Mushy I have often quoted the following:

“Power corrupts, Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

- lost bedouin ( Starbucklets)

]]> By: Nadeem Yousaf http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2007/11/the-end-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12121 Nadeem Yousaf Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:50:31 +0000 http://www.zackvision.com/?p=1742#comment-12121 <p>General Musharraf on, 12th October 1999, has usurped power in a coup against the civil government. The aforementioned action was extra-constitutional, which was though not appreciated but reluctantly accepted by people of Pakistan for time being with this hope that Gen. Musharraf would hold free and fair election and reinstate democracy within the time frame of 3 years as given by the Supreme Court of Pakistan. Following his predecessors military rulers, he extended his rule by holding infamous referendum and proclaiming himself as the elected president. In elections 2002, his political stooges and sycophants could not get a simple majority to form a government even after rigging the elections, so he threatened and offered political inducements to the elected parliamentarians of other political parties in order to form the government of his choice. These ugly politics worked well and he eventually succeeded in forming a tamed government. The motive of all these extra-constitutional actions and politically maneuvering were to serve his vested interests and to keep the highest political post of President and military post of chief of the army staff, simultaneously. In 2002, he did not call the first session of the national assemble till the time he was assured that the notorious 17th amendment would be passed by the parliament. In order to achieve his self-serving mission, he played an ugly game not only with political alliance MMA but also with the whole nation by making a false pledge that he would shed his uniform on 31 December, 2004, which he had not fulfilled till today. Once again on the 3rd of November 2007, when he felt that power might go away from him, he has made a second coup and imposed Martial Law without any genuine grounds under the shadow of emergency. To keep the highest political office of president, he once again with the help of army generals derailed the process of democracy, which should not be despised but must be condemned, strongly. </p> <p>This time, he committed a despicable crime by attacking the supremacy, integrity and independence of judiciary, which they were showing first time in the history of Pakistan. He tried to undermine their independence and integrity by accusing them that they were taking decisions in the favor of terrorist. Like 9th March 2007, once again he openly attacked on the independence of judiciary by changing the Chief Justice and removing senior judges who refused to accept his new Provision Constitutional Order. In his speech, he charged them for interfering in the matters of the executives and encouraging terrorist, which is completely absurd accusation. </p> <p>The fact is that his poor leadership, ugly political tactics and poor policies have increased number of bomb blasts, enhanced frustration and alienation among people, and weaken integration of the federation - not the judicial decisions. Undoubtedly, he attacked on the judiciary because, in the hindsight, he got scared that the Supreme Court of Pakistan might declare recent presidential elections null and void and not allow him to contest presidential election for the next two years. Hence, he imposed emergency or martial law before the announcement of the decision of the Supreme Court. It is a fact that if the Supreme Court had barred him from contesting presidential election, it would have been accordance with the country’s constitution in which it is clearly stated that public servants during service cannot participate in politics. It is evident from his midnight speech on 4th November, 2004 that he is perturbed on the Supreme Court decisions that have gone or will go against him and his corrupt acolytes, therefore, he has now initiated media trial against the judiciary. </p> <p>The recent proclamation of Martial Law and suspension of 1973 constitution shows that he is power hungry and can go up to any extent to keep it. He does not have any respect for any institution that takes a stand against his rule. Musharraf is a self proclaimed hero who has never won any war - neither as a solider nor as a president. As a solider he miserably failed in Kargil and as a political leader he failed in integrating the nation. </p> <p>For the sake of country existence, provincial integration, democracy, independence of the judiciary and other institutions, we must strongly demand that Gen. Musharraf must step down as President and Chief of the Army Staff forthwith and immediately announce interim government that holds free and fair elections within three months. </p> <p>Please sign this petition to support that we all want genuine (not controlled) democracy in Pakistan and disallow any army role in the national politics. </p> <p>sign a petition here<br /> <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/demo07/petition.html" rel="nofollow"><br /> http://www.petitiononline.com/demo07/petition.html</a></p> General Musharraf on, 12th October 1999, has usurped power in a coup against the civil government. The aforementioned action was extra-constitutional, which was though not appreciated but reluctantly accepted by people of Pakistan for time being with this hope that Gen. Musharraf would hold free and fair election and reinstate democracy within the time frame of 3 years as given by the Supreme Court of Pakistan. Following his predecessors military rulers, he extended his rule by holding infamous referendum and proclaiming himself as the elected president. In elections 2002, his political stooges and sycophants could not get a simple majority to form a government even after rigging the elections, so he threatened and offered political inducements to the elected parliamentarians of other political parties in order to form the government of his choice. These ugly politics worked well and he eventually succeeded in forming a tamed government. The motive of all these extra-constitutional actions and politically maneuvering were to serve his vested interests and to keep the highest political post of President and military post of chief of the army staff, simultaneously. In 2002, he did not call the first session of the national assemble till the time he was assured that the notorious 17th amendment would be passed by the parliament. In order to achieve his self-serving mission, he played an ugly game not only with political alliance MMA but also with the whole nation by making a false pledge that he would shed his uniform on 31 December, 2004, which he had not fulfilled till today. Once again on the 3rd of November 2007, when he felt that power might go away from him, he has made a second coup and imposed Martial Law without any genuine grounds under the shadow of emergency. To keep the highest political office of president, he once again with the help of army generals derailed the process of democracy, which should not be despised but must be condemned, strongly.

This time, he committed a despicable crime by attacking the supremacy, integrity and independence of judiciary, which they were showing first time in the history of Pakistan. He tried to undermine their independence and integrity by accusing them that they were taking decisions in the favor of terrorist. Like 9th March 2007, once again he openly attacked on the independence of judiciary by changing the Chief Justice and removing senior judges who refused to accept his new Provision Constitutional Order. In his speech, he charged them for interfering in the matters of the executives and encouraging terrorist, which is completely absurd accusation.

The fact is that his poor leadership, ugly political tactics and poor policies have increased number of bomb blasts, enhanced frustration and alienation among people, and weaken integration of the federation – not the judicial decisions. Undoubtedly, he attacked on the judiciary because, in the hindsight, he got scared that the Supreme Court of Pakistan might declare recent presidential elections null and void and not allow him to contest presidential election for the next two years. Hence, he imposed emergency or martial law before the announcement of the decision of the Supreme Court. It is a fact that if the Supreme Court had barred him from contesting presidential election, it would have been accordance with the country’s constitution in which it is clearly stated that public servants during service cannot participate in politics. It is evident from his midnight speech on 4th November, 2004 that he is perturbed on the Supreme Court decisions that have gone or will go against him and his corrupt acolytes, therefore, he has now initiated media trial against the judiciary.

The recent proclamation of Martial Law and suspension of 1973 constitution shows that he is power hungry and can go up to any extent to keep it. He does not have any respect for any institution that takes a stand against his rule. Musharraf is a self proclaimed hero who has never won any war – neither as a solider nor as a president. As a solider he miserably failed in Kargil and as a political leader he failed in integrating the nation.

For the sake of country existence, provincial integration, democracy, independence of the judiciary and other institutions, we must strongly demand that Gen. Musharraf must step down as President and Chief of the Army Staff forthwith and immediately announce interim government that holds free and fair elections within three months.

Please sign this petition to support that we all want genuine (not controlled) democracy in Pakistan and disallow any army role in the national politics.

sign a petition here

http://www.petitiononline.com/demo07/petition.html

]]> By: Khurram http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2007/11/the-end-of-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12120 Khurram Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:44:45 +0000 http://www.zackvision.com/?p=1742#comment-12120 <p>Déjà vu one word describes the whole article. Lets find a solution, Zia is dead, and Mush is on his way out… So lets brainstorm some ideas.</p> Déjà vu one word describes the whole article. Lets find a solution, Zia is dead, and Mush is on his way out… So lets brainstorm some ideas.

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